08-07-2017, 10:58 AM
I don't give to begging (neither $ nor food nor drink). There was a time
in life where I did, but the nagging doubts of whether I'm helping vs. abetting the root cause in the long term and/or appeasing some sense of my own guilt led to the rule of 'just never give'.
I won't disparage or dispute the motives of those that do.
I do contribute to charities (time and/or $) and, in respect to JA, admit to bringing school supplies for an acquaintance's kid.
I hadn't kept up on the One Love Bus thing and hadn't realized it was more recently advertised to include "shanty town" stop (whatever one's definition of shanty town is). I've never been and don't know Lenbert so I'll refrain from comment on the tor itself. However, this bit about charities not helping that community:
JamaicaJeanne " ... Lenbert says that many of the organizations do not reach out to the poorest of communities ..."
and
Just curious how one would know? Does he say this on the tour (which I doubt either of you take). I'm not questioning the veracity, rather, wondering how does one learn these things? Maybe it is a common discussion in town.
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different topic 1:
Kylake " ... was a revolution by the people and they got their country back ... ". Would you really call JA's path to independence a revolution?
For 2 reasons I'd use a different term. 1) it happened over a relatively long period of time. 2) I attribute a large part of it to the overall decolonization world wide effort as opposed to a revolt.
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different topic 2;
OT, I've never shopped at a "Value Village", but I think that just makes them smart shoppers.
in life where I did, but the nagging doubts of whether I'm helping vs. abetting the root cause in the long term and/or appeasing some sense of my own guilt led to the rule of 'just never give'.
I won't disparage or dispute the motives of those that do.
I do contribute to charities (time and/or $) and, in respect to JA, admit to bringing school supplies for an acquaintance's kid.
I hadn't kept up on the One Love Bus thing and hadn't realized it was more recently advertised to include "shanty town" stop (whatever one's definition of shanty town is). I've never been and don't know Lenbert so I'll refrain from comment on the tor itself. However, this bit about charities not helping that community:
JamaicaJeanne " ... Lenbert says that many of the organizations do not reach out to the poorest of communities ..."
and
(08-06-2017, 06:29 PM)Aquavit Wrote: ... Lenbert perpetuates the myth that traditional charitable organizations "overlook" this particular neighborhood and its residents - and that is not true at all.
Just curious how one would know? Does he say this on the tour (which I doubt either of you take). I'm not questioning the veracity, rather, wondering how does one learn these things? Maybe it is a common discussion in town.
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different topic 1:
Kylake " ... was a revolution by the people and they got their country back ... ". Would you really call JA's path to independence a revolution?
For 2 reasons I'd use a different term. 1) it happened over a relatively long period of time. 2) I attribute a large part of it to the overall decolonization world wide effort as opposed to a revolt.
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different topic 2;
OT, I've never shopped at a "Value Village", but I think that just makes them smart shoppers.